Governor Daniels and Joe Lonsdale, the founder and managing partner of 8VC, discuss the prospects for liberty in the technology sector, challenges to liberty in public education, and the difficulty of starting a defense company when your competition is the government. They also discuss Lonsdale’s work with the University of Austin, the perils of DEI, the proper role of government, the way to a better future, and why Lonsdale likes Xenophon.

Governor Mitch Daniels and Katherine Mangu-Ward, editor in chief of Reason magazine, discuss why it’s so hard for third parties to gain ground in American politics, whether not voting is a responsible choice, the role of technology in education, and the place of traditional and new media in the modern political landscape.

In this episode Governor Daniels and legal scholar and founder of the New Civil Liberties Alliance, Philip Hamburger, discuss the origins of the administrative state in classism, the use of it as an “irregular pathway” around the Constitution, and a series of cases about topics from fishing boats to social media that demonstrate the dangers to liberty that arise from an overreaching administrative state.