ALL EPISODES

Philip Hamburger on the Threats of the Administrative State
06-26-24
Governor Daniels and Philip Hamburger discuss the dangers of using the administrative state as an “irregular pathway” around the Constitution.

Katherine Mangu-Ward on Journalism and the State
07-18-24
Governor Mitch Daniels and Katherine Mangu-Ward, editor in chief of Reason magazine, discuss third parties in American politics, the role of technology in education, and the place of media in the modern political landscape.

Joe Lonsdale on the Rebirth of Liberty and Cultivating a Successful Future
08-15-24
Governor Daniels and Joe Lonsdale, the founder and managing partner of 8VC, discuss the prospects for and challenges to liberty in technology and education, and consider the choices they think will create a brighter future for America.

Randy Barnett on Liberty under Law
09-20-24
Mitch Daniels and Randy Barnett discuss Barnett’s political philosophy and his development as a public meaning originalist, as well as his theory that “first come rights and then comes government.”

Todd Young on Balancing Liberty, Security, and Markets
10-18-24
Governor Mitch Daniels and Senator Todd Young (R-Ind) discuss the state of the American military, the national debt, and the importance of continuing to invest in science and technology.

Stephanie Slade on Liberty, Virtue, and Fusionism
11-15-24
Governor Mitch Daniels and Reason magazine Senior Editor Stephanie Slade consider the American political landscape, the prospects for a 21st century fusionism, and the contrasts between a static and a dynamic society.

Niall Ferguson and the Lessons of History
12-06-24
Governor Mitch Daniels and Sir Niall Ferguson share a sobering analysis of current geopolitical tensions and the long-term consequences of aging societies and fiscal mismanagement.

Amity Shlaes on the Forgotten Lessons of the New Deal Era
01-17-25
Governor Mitch Daniels and historian Amity Shlaes discuss misconceptions about the Great Depression and the New Deal; reevaluate the reputations of Presidents Coolidge, Hoover, and FDR; and consider the idea of the Forgotten Man.

Yuval Levin on Hope and Politics in America
02-20-25
Governor Mitch Daniels and Yuval Levin discuss hope as an active virtue, the need to build coalitions even when we disagree, the importance of the Constitution and Congress, and some possible changes to the American political system.

Charles Murray on Dignity and the American Dream
03-21-25
Governor Mitch Daniels and Charles Murray of AEI discuss achievement in America, the widening gap between classes, and the interplay of liberty, responsibility, and self-respect.

Mike Pence on our Constitutional Moment
04-04-25
Governor Mitch Daniels sits down with Vice President Mike Pence to discuss lessons in preserving freedom in the midst of a global pandemic, faith traditions and self-governance, DOGE, and January 6th.

About the Podcast
The future of liberty has never been more uncertain. While there remain many reasons for optimism, there is also cause for pessimism or even alarm. With experience in business, education, and politics, former Indiana governor and Purdue University president Mitch Daniels investigates the prospects for the future of liberty and more through conversations with prominent thinkers and leaders across diverse fields.